Above, native Americans know first hand about "Red Flag" laws.
Watchman comment below.
Friends and Patriots, red flag laws are already being used to deprive mentally stable veterans with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome of their second amendment rights. Armed forces personnel can also lose their rights if they are accused of domestic violence.
We already have laws concerning emergency protective order. If a person is a threat to themselves, their family, friends or others a judge will put that person in a mental health institution. In my opinion "Red Flag" laws are just another means for government to control people.
Watchman comment below.
Friends and Patriots, red flag laws are already being used to deprive mentally stable veterans with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome of their second amendment rights. Armed forces personnel can also lose their rights if they are accused of domestic violence.
We already have laws concerning emergency protective order. If a person is a threat to themselves, their family, friends or others a judge will put that person in a mental health institution. In my opinion "Red Flag" laws are just another means for government to control people.
I predict the next group to
be deprived of their rights will be Christians because the communists say we
are full of hate. Already conservative Christians are being censored and
deprived of their first amendment rights, the leftist communists want to
deprive us of our second amendment rights also.
Also, consider this, innocent
people who are generally “red flagged” go bankrupt fighting in court to clear
their good name and again we are back to the growing monster of judicial tyranny.
I ask you what happened to Native Americans when they were disarmed. Their land was not only stolen but they were herded onto
reservations. Tomorrow’s reservations will be FEMA camps for Christians. Yeshua
said the world hated him and the world would hate his followers.
Finally, beware of faux conservative Republicans, they will throw you and I under the bus in a heartbeat, for
example, Governor Mike DeWine in Ohio. He caved immediately when he came under leftist
political pressure.
Below is the article about “red
flag” laws. Watchman comments are in parentheses
Congressional Republicans, under intense pressure to
respond to this weekend’s massacres, are coalescing around legislation to help
law enforcement take guns from those who pose an imminent danger — a measure
that, if signed into law, would be the most significant gun control legislation
enacted in 20 years.
Such “red flag”
laws might not be as momentous — or controversial — as the
now-expired assault weapons ban or the instant background check system, both of
which were enacted in 1994 as part of President Bill Clinton’s sprawling crime
bill. The House, under Democratic control, passed far more ambitious bills in
February that would require background checks for all gun purchasers, including
those on the internet or at gun shows, and extend waiting limits for would-be
gun buyers flagged by the instant check system.
But those bills have run
into a blockade that Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, has erected
for House bills he opposes.
Now, after back-to-back
shootings this weekend left 31 people dead in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, Republicans who have long
resisted gun restrictions appear rattled. In Ohio, Gov. Mike DeWine was shouted
down on Sunday by mourners in Dayton demanding that he “do something.” On
Tuesday, he urged his fellow Republicans in the state legislature to pass
measures establishing red flag powers and expanding background checks.
“They were absolutely right,” Mr. DeWine said Tuesday morning at a news
conference. “We must do something, and that is exactly what we are going to
do.” (Watchman comment: yes, DeWine we must take
away the Bill of Rights, enact more red flag laws that take away veterans
rights and labeling innocent peaceful people as a mental threats;
Where is the outrage in our
cities when every night and every day black people shoot each other. There are
no protests to do something about those shootings. Each day in this nation more
people are shot in their neighborhoods than in mass shootings.)
Representative Michael R.
Turner, a Republican whose district includes Dayton, went further.
“I will support legislation
that prevents the sale of military-style weapons to civilians, a magazine limit
and red flag
legislation,” he said in a statement Tuesday. “The carnage these
military-style weapons are able to produce when available to the wrong people
is intolerable.”
But in the Senate, where a
background checks bill failed in 2013 after 26 children and staff members were
gunned down at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., (watchman
comment: a staged event to promote red flag laws) red flag laws may be the only
gun-related measure that could squeeze through. President Trump endorsed the
idea on Monday in a speech from the White House, giving skittish Republicans
cover to embrace it.
Senator John Thune of South
Dakota, the No. 2 Republican, told his hometown newspaper, The Argus Leader, that he was
“confident Congress will be able to find common ground on the so-called red
flag issue.” Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, has already
proposed legislation that would offer federal grants to states to help them
enact and enforce red flag laws, also known as “extreme risk protection
orders,” which are intended to restrict potentially dangerous people rather
than dangerous weapons. (Watchman comment: of course, Graham loves red flag
laws!)
And Mr. McConnell has asked
three committee chairmen to “reflect on the subjects the president raised” and
hold bipartisan talks of “potential solutions.”
Red flag legislation also
appears poised to move in the House, (well hell yes, this is terrific Big
Government legislation . The Judiciary Committee was consulting with its
members on Tuesday about whether to briefly return to Washington from a
six-week recess to advance a red flag bill and other gun-related legislation,
according to an aide to the committee.
But it is not clear how
Democrats will proceed. Some House liberals want still more measures, such as a
ban on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, which
directly fuel mass shootings. A House Democratic leadership aide suggested that
a red flag bill passed out of the Senate would ideally be attached to tougher
House bills to force negotiations between the two chambers.
And a few House Republicans
might go along. Representative Adam Kinzinger of Illinois said he had it with
the “broken record” debate over gun violence and called for universal
background checks, raising the age to buy a gun to 21 and banning some
high-capacity magazines “like the 100-round drum the Dayton shooter used this
weekend.”
“If we can all recognize the
existence of real evil and focus again on respecting each other, and for the
love of God quit naming and showing the shooters, we can and will make a real
impact,” said Kinzinger.
Seventeen states and the District of Columbia already have laws that allow “extreme risk protection orders.”
The laws authorize courts to issue orders
allowing police to temporarily confiscate firearms from a person deemed by a judge (more
judicial tyranny) as posing a risk of violence. Often, requests for the orders
come from relatives and friends concerned about a gun owner who expresses
suicidal thoughts or threatens to harm others.
The National Rifle Association, the nation’s
largest gun lobbying group, has been fighting extreme risk protection orders in
the states for years.
An N.R.A.
spokeswoman, Catherine Mortensen, said on Tuesday that any such orders “at a
minimum must include strong due process protections, require treatment and
include penalties against those who make frivolous claims.” (Catherine, good
luck on your good ideas!)
Gun violence has been one of the most divisive
and intractable issues in Washington, and even gun control advocates conceded
that getting the House bills through the Senate would be a heavy lift. Senator
Patrick J. Toomey, Republican of Pennsylvania, said on Monday that he was
reviving his background checks bill, which fell to a filibuster in 2013, and
that he intended to press Mr. McConnell to bring it up if Republicans were
convinced they had the votes.
“I think we need Manchin-Toomey,” Mr. Toomey said,
referring to Senator Joe Manchin III, Democrat of West Virginia, his
co-sponsor. “I think it’s overdue. This is a common-sense, very broadly
supported measure that would fully respect the rights of law-abiding citizens,
fully respect the Second Amendment.”
Already, Democrats are warning that
Republicans will use Mr. Graham’s proposal to skirt the larger issue.
“Right now I can sense from my conversations
with Republican colleagues that they are really grappling and struggling —
scrambling may be too strong a word — but they are really searching for some
steps that are meaningful,” Senator Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of
Connecticut, who is joining with Mr. Graham on the red flag bill, said on
Tuesday. “And there’s nothing more strongly supported by the American people
than background checks.”
Mr. Blumenthal and other Democrats are
demanding that Mr. McConnell bring the Senate back from its August recess to
pass the House bill expanding background checks to
internet and gun show purchases, and a second House measure allowing the F.B.I. more time to
investigate a would-be gun buyer flagged by the current
background check system. (How about 5 to 10 years of investigation for the criminal in the FBI! Remember, don't talk to the FBI or you could be charged with lying!)
“The idea of a red flag law is O.K., but it
doesn’t substitute” for a background checks bill, Senator Chuck Schumer, the
Democratic leader, told reporters on Tuesday. “It’s not enough.”
At the White House, Mr. Trump told aides to
explore whether he could achieve some gun measure — possibly background checks
— through executive action, according to two people briefed on the discussions.
However, Mr. Trump expressed a desire to get some form of political concession
from his critics in exchange for doing so, according to the people briefed.
(After congressional action failed in the wake of the Newtown shooting,
President Barack Obama tried to use his executive authority to bolster gun
controls but he had little success.)
The
evidence for whether extreme risk protection orders work to prevent gun
violence is inconclusive, according to a study by the RAND Corporation on the
effectiveness of gun safety measures.
But emerging evidence suggests that temporary
removal laws can have a measurable effect on suicide deaths when they are
enacted and used. Research in Connecticut and Indiana has found that the
enforcement of the laws saved lives — about one fewer suicide death for every
10 to 20 cases of gun removals. Suicides represent around two-thirds of all gun
deaths in the United States.
In states
that lack red flag laws, judges typically require a diagnosis of dangerous
mental illness before a person is barred from owning firearms. And despite the
pronouncements of politicians who are quick to blame mass shootings on people
who are mentally ill, research shows that past violent behavior is a much
better indicator of whether someone will turn violent. White extremist ideology also drives many deadly shootings. (Yeah, those white man are the culprits!)
Advocates also point to the 2018 mass shooting at Marjory
Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., where the gunman exhibited such troubling behavior, according
to one neighbor, that his mother would on occasion call the police. After the
massacre, which resulted in the deaths of 17 students and staff members,
Florida joined a number of other states in
passing red flag laws.
Gun control advocates are enthusiastic about
Mr. Graham’s measure. On Monday, John Feinblatt, the president of Everytown for
Gun Safety, cited red flag laws as one of his two top priorities, along with
background check legislation.
Other bills are circulating as well. Mr.
Toomey and Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware, are proposing a so-called
lie and try bill, which would mandate the prosecution of people who try to
purchase guns even though they are ineligible.
And House leaders plan to keep the issue of
extremist violence in the public view. On Tuesday, the bipartisan leadership of
the House Homeland Security Committee sent a letter to Jim Watkins, the owner
of 8Chan, the internet message board where violent white supremacists
congregate, demanding that he come before Congress and answer questions on the
site’s content.
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